Episode 209

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9th Jun 2026

How to Stay Calm in a Crisis and Why Detachment Is a Trainable Skill - Jamie Cochran

Your ego isn’t the enemy, but if you’re not actively controlling it, it is running your team, your home, and your most important relationships. Jamie Cochran, COO of Echelon Front, has spent 13 years helping leaders fix the root cause most of them never look for.

The Women’s Leadership Assembly live event runs January 5–7, 2027 in Palm Springs. A free monthly webinar series runs year-round. More details here: https://events.echelonfront.com/product/assembly-004/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=22652941380&utm_content=&utm_term=&utm_source=google&utm_medium=paid&utm_campaign=22652941380&utm_content=&utm_term=&gadid=&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22662710098&gclid=CjwKCAjwxITRBhBYEiwA6mZm7VZs1jY-jUq1ugoigo8XEDkYsRsSEpOs2eblax5TQOW-9LT_K-hVhBoC1RkQAvD_BwE

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Chapters

00:00 ​Intro of Show

01:33 The Spartan Warrior Selection

02:25 Why Female Leadership Is Misunderstood

06:35 Are Leadership Tools Evolving or Constant?

07:12 What Is Extreme Ownership?

11:44 Owning It All vs. Doing It All

12:34 Female Leadership: Strength vs. Confidence vs. Aggression

17:57 Imposter Syndrome: Healthy or Dangerous?

23:37 Leadership Skills: Natural or Trainable?

31:00 Detachment from Emotion: On Making Better Decisions

32:32 Healthy Competition Against Women

36:20 Jamie’s Thyroid Cancer Diagnosis and Practicing Detachment

48:12 Avoidant Leaders and Default Aggressive Bias for Action

51:96 Top 3 Mistakes Leaders Make

52:43 The Leadership Capital Framework

57:54 The PIOS Framework: Problem, Impact, Ownership, Solution

1:00:10 When to End a Professional Relationship

1:04:29 The Women’s Leadership Assembly: Origin Story

1:07:05 Impact of Social Media on the Confidence of Young Girls

1:13:35 Compounding Habits that Improve Leadership over Time

1:14:55 Discipline as a Parenting Tool

1:22:07 Recognising when your Leadership Capacity is Failing

1:24:51 Women’s Assembly in January 2027: Palm Springs

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